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#60384 From: Kristin <prettyrose33@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:32 am
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Re:Andruw Jones agrees to deal with White Sox
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 I think he's prime example of a player who was roided up and now isn't. 
 
Kristin


From: Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...>
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Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 4:22:48 PM
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Re:Andruw Jones agrees to deal with White Sox

 

Do you guys remember how good this guy use to be? His coming out party was in the 96 WS.
He was an All Star and I believe he won many Gold Gloves w/Atlanta and then he signed with LA
and his career went to shambles. He is only 32 and he needs to do something quick or he will be
looked at as a failure and I believe he will regret it forever.
 


 









#60383 From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:27 am
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Re:Andruw Jones agrees to deal with White Sox
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Two problems for Jones were: eating/weight, and allegeded steriod use.

--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...> wrote:

From: Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Re:Andruw Jones agrees to deal with White Sox
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 7:22 PM

 
Do you guys remember how good this guy use to be? His coming out party was in the 96 WS.
He was an All Star and I believe he won many Gold Gloves w/Atlanta and then he signed with LA
and his career went to shambles. He is only 32 and he needs to do something quick or he will be
looked at as a failure and I believe he will regret it forever.
 


 









#60382 From: Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:22 am
Subject: Re:Andruw Jones agrees to deal with White Sox
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Do you guys remember how good this guy use to be? His coming out party was in the 96 WS.
He was an All Star and I believe he won many Gold Gloves w/Atlanta and then he signed with LA
and his career went to shambles. He is only 32 and he needs to do something quick or he will be
looked at as a failure and I believe he will regret it forever.
 


 








#60381 From: "SLC" <theslick1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:39 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Andruw Jones agrees to deal with White Sox
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They were rumored to be interested in Vlad, so maybe this means they aren't.

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> Good place for him- let them have the Vizquels and Jones.
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> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Andruw Jones agrees to deal with White Sox
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#60380 From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Andruw Jones agrees to deal with White Sox
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Good place for him- let them have the Vizquels and Jones.

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From: ramondostallings <ramondostallings@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Andruw Jones agrees to deal with White Sox
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 6:09 PM



#60379 From: "ramondostallings" <ramondostallings@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:09 pm
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#60378 From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:32 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch
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If the Sox acquire Halladay and sign him to a contract then maybe it means they don't plan on keeping Beckett beyond this year. Ride him out for 1 more year and try to win it then let him go. I don't see them paying both Halladay and Beckett mega-contracts for over 100 million.

--- On Wed, 11/25/09, SLC <theslick1@...> wrote:

From: SLC <theslick1@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 5:08 PM

 
In addition to Halladay, Bay is a free agent that they'll have to spend $60 mil or so to retain. The cost of Halladay to Boston is likely a package including Clay Buchholz. I would hate to see that happen because Boston deserves to have a guy named Buchholz on its team.

If you were Toronto, who would you rather have - Buchholz, Joba, or Hughes?

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote:
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> Interesting. If the Sox acquire him they'll have a killer rotation. However, both Beckett and Halliday will need to be signed as both their contracts end this year. Are they going to spend 200 million or so to sign both of them? I find that a little hard to believe. I still don't think the Yanks will make this trade and give up their prospects and then have to sign him. If Boston does acquire him and I'm still skeptical about that because of all that money needed, then I think the Yanks will sign Lackey in response. That way they don't need to trade anybody to get Lackey.
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> From: Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@ ...>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Cc: TheYankeesClub@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 12:26 PM
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> Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch
> BY Mark Feinsand and Bill Madden
> DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITERS
> Tuesday, November 24th 2009, 9:50 PM
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> Gash/PoolThe Boston Red Sox want to make a deal for Roy Halladay in next couple of weeks, keeping the Blue Jays' ace away from the New York Yankees.
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> Thanksgiving isn't until Thursday, but the Halladay season is officially underway.
> The Red Sox are "putting on a full-court press" to acquire Roy Halladay, according to a source, and are hoping to add the former Cy Young winner to the top of their rotation to go with Josh Beckett and Jon Lester.
> "They would love to get it wrapped up before the winter meetings (beginning Dec. 7)," the source said of the Red Sox, who made a big push to deal for Halladay last summer.
> If the Red Sox are serious about dealing for Halladay in the next two weeks, the Yankees will likely have their chance to get involved in the sweepstakes for the Blue Jays ace, although it will take a package of top prospects - as well as a sizeable contract extension for Halladay, who has a full no-trade clause - to get a deal done.
> According to sources, the Yankees will get together in Tampa next week for another round of organizational meetings, during which Brian Cashman will be given his budget for the 2010 season.
> Cashman indicated on Monday night that he wouldn't be in position to begin presenting offers to any free agents until the payroll situation is resolved, but he will surely continue to monitor the Halladay situation, which could be moving faster than many expected.
> Although Cashman hasn't held any serious talks with agents yet, the general manager confirmed yesterday that he has spoken with many teams around the league - including the Blue Jays - about potential trades.
> Without a firm budget to work with, Cashman can make smaller deals, such as the one he made for Nick Swisher last November, but until he knows how much money he has to spend, trading for Halladay or a player of that magnitude is not going to happen.
> To land Halladay, Boston would likely have to give up Clay Buchholz, the organization' s top young pitcher, as well as Casey Kelly, the pitcher/shortstop who signed with the Red Sox in 2008 after being recruited by Tennessee to play quarterback. Red Sox GM Theo Epstein is said to be smitten with Kelly, which could be a sticking point in talks with Toronto if Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos insists on the 20-year-old being included in a deal.
> The Yankees would love to acquire Halladay, although Cashman has been reluctant to deal away top prospects such as Austin Jackson and Jesus Montero for a player he would then have to sign for more than $100 million, such as Halladay. Toronto would also likely require either Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain in a deal.
> Other teams figure to be involved in the Halladay mix, including the Angels, who reportedly have stepped up their efforts this week as they prepare for the possibility that John Lackey will sign elsewhere.
> Cashman will begin speaking to agents - starting with the representatives for Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui and Andy Pettitte - once the meetings with ownership are complete. Damon and Matsui have expressed their desire to return to the Bronx, but Pettitte is still contemplating whether he will pitch at all in 2010 or retire. If Pettitte returns, he would move back into the No. 3 slot in the rotation behind CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett, making it less urgent for Cashman to acquire a big-name starting pitcher.
> Monday night, Joe Girardi didn't sound like a man convinced that the options at the bottom of the rotation - most notably Hughes and Chamberlain - can be counted on to fill those slots next season, so even if Pettitte comes back, the Yanks likely will still try to add another arm to the rotation.
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#60377 From: "SLC" <theslick1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch
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In addition to Halladay, Bay is a free agent that they'll have to spend $60 mil
or so to retain.  The cost of Halladay to Boston is likely a package including
Clay Buchholz.  I would hate to see that happen because Boston deserves to have
a guy named Buchholz on its team.

If you were Toronto, who would you rather have - Buchholz, Joba, or Hughes?


--- In thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
wrote:
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> Interesting. If the Sox acquire him they'll have a killer rotation. However,
both Beckett and Halliday will need to be signed as both their contracts end
this year. Are they going to spend 200 million or so to sign both of them? I
find that a little hard to believe. I still don't think the Yanks will make this
trade and give up their prospects and then have to sign him. If Boston does
acquire him and I'm still skeptical about that because of all that money needed,
then I think the Yanks will sign Lackey in response. That way they don't need to
trade anybody to get Lackey.
>
> --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...> wrote:
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> From: Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for
Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: TheYankeesClub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 12:26 PM
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> BY Mark Feinsand and Bill Madden
> DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITERS
> Tuesday, November 24th 2009, 9:50 PM
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> Gash/PoolThe Boston Red Sox want to make a deal for Roy Halladay in next
couple of weeks, keeping the Blue Jays' ace away from the New York Yankees.
>
>
> Thanksgiving isn't until Thursday, but the Halladay season is officially
underway.
> The Red Sox are "putting on a full-court press" to acquire Roy Halladay,
according to a source, and are hoping to add the former Cy Young winner to the
top of their rotation to go with Josh Beckett and Jon Lester.
> "They would love to get it wrapped up before the winter meetings (beginning
Dec. 7)," the source said of the Red Sox, who made a big push to deal for
Halladay last summer.
> If the Red Sox are serious about dealing for Halladay in the next two weeks,
the Yankees will likely have their chance to get involved in the sweepstakes for
the Blue Jays ace, although it will take a package of top prospects - as well as
a sizeable contract extension for Halladay, who has a full no-trade clause - to
get a deal done.
> According to sources, the Yankees will get together in Tampa next week for
another round of organizational meetings, during which Brian Cashman will be
given his budget for the 2010 season.
> Cashman indicated on Monday night that he wouldn't be in position to begin
presenting offers to any free agents until the payroll situation is resolved,
but he will surely continue to monitor the Halladay situation, which could be
moving faster than many expected.
> Although Cashman hasn't held any serious talks with agents yet, the general
manager confirmed yesterday that he has spoken with many teams around the league
- including the Blue Jays - about potential trades.
> Without a firm budget to work with, Cashman can make smaller deals, such as
the one he made for Nick Swisher last November, but until he knows how much
money he has to spend, trading for Halladay or a player of that magnitude is not
going to happen.
> To land Halladay, Boston would likely have to give up Clay Buchholz, the
organization' s top young pitcher, as well as Casey Kelly, the pitcher/shortstop
who signed with the Red Sox in 2008 after being recruited by Tennessee to play
quarterback. Red Sox GM Theo Epstein is said to be smitten with Kelly, which
could be a sticking point in talks with Toronto if Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos
insists on the 20-year-old being included in a deal.
> The Yankees would love to acquire Halladay, although Cashman has been
reluctant to deal away top prospects such as Austin Jackson and Jesus Montero
for a player he would then have to sign for more than $100 million, such as
Halladay. Toronto would also likely require either Phil Hughes or Joba
Chamberlain in a deal.
> Other teams figure to be involved in the Halladay mix, including the Angels,
who reportedly have stepped up their efforts this week as they prepare for the
possibility that John Lackey will sign elsewhere.
> Cashman will begin speaking to agents - starting with the representatives for
Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui and Andy Pettitte - once the meetings with ownership
are complete. Damon and Matsui have expressed their desire to return to the
Bronx, but Pettitte is still contemplating whether he will pitch at all in 2010
or retire. If Pettitte returns, he would move back into the No. 3 slot in the
rotation behind CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett, making it less urgent for Cashman
to acquire a big-name starting pitcher.
> Monday night, Joe Girardi didn't sound like a man convinced that the options
at the bottom of the rotation - most notably Hughes and Chamberlain - can be
counted on to fill those slots next season, so even if Pettitte comes back, the
Yanks likely will still try to add another arm to the rotation.
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#60376 From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch
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Interesting. If the Sox acquire him they'll have a killer rotation. However, both Beckett and Halliday will need to be signed as both their contracts end this year. Are they going to spend 200 million or so to sign both of them? I find that a little hard to believe. I still don't think the Yanks will make this trade and give up their prospects and then have to sign him. If Boston does acquire him and I'm still skeptical about that because of all that money needed, then I think the Yanks will sign Lackey in response. That way they don't need to trade anybody to get Lackey.

--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...> wrote:

From: Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Cc: TheYankeesClub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 12:26 PM

 

Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch

Tuesday, November 24th 2009, 9:50 PM

The Boston Red Sox want to make a deal for Roy Halladay in next couple of weeks, keeping the Blue Jays' ace away from the New York Yankees.
Gash/Pool
The Boston Red Sox want to make a deal for Roy Halladay in next couple of weeks, keeping the Blue Jays' ace away from the New York Yankees.

Thanksgiving isn't until Thursday, but the Halladay season is officially underway.
The Red Sox are "putting on a full-court press" to acquire Roy Halladay, according to a source, and are hoping to add the former Cy Young winner to the top of their rotation to go with Josh Beckett and Jon Lester.
"They would love to get it wrapped up before the winter meetings (beginning Dec. 7)," the source said of the Red Sox, who made a big push to deal for Halladay last summer.
If the Red Sox are serious about dealing for Halladay in the next two weeks, the Yankees will likely have their chance to get involved in the sweepstakes for the Blue Jays ace, although it will take a package of top prospects - as well as a sizeable contract extension for Halladay, who has a full no-trade clause - to get a deal done.
According to sources, the Yankees will get together in Tampa next week for another round of organizational meetings, during which Brian Cashman will be given his budget for the 2010 season.
Cashman indicated on Monday night that he wouldn't be in position to begin presenting offers to any free agents until the payroll situation is resolved, but he will surely continue to monitor the Halladay situation, which could be moving faster than many expected.
Although Cashman hasn't held any serious talks with agents yet, the general manager confirmed yesterday that he has spoken with many teams around the league - including the Blue Jays - about potential trades.
Without a firm budget to work with, Cashman can make smaller deals, such as the one he made for Nick Swisher last November, but until he knows how much money he has to spend, trading for Halladay or a player of that magnitude is not going to happen.
To land Halladay, Boston would likely have to give up Clay Buchholz, the organization' s top young pitcher, as well as Casey Kelly, the pitcher/shortstop who signed with the Red Sox in 2008 after being recruited by Tennessee to play quarterback. Red Sox GM Theo Epstein is said to be smitten with Kelly, which could be a sticking point in talks with Toronto if Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos insists on the 20-year-old being included in a deal.
The Yankees would love to acquire Halladay, although Cashman has been reluctant to deal away top prospects such as Austin Jackson and Jesus Montero for a player he would then have to sign for more than $100 million, such as Halladay. Toronto would also likely require either Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain in a deal.
Other teams figure to be involved in the Halladay mix, including the Angels, who reportedly have stepped up their efforts this week as they prepare for the possibility that John Lackey will sign elsewhere.
Cashman will begin speaking to agents - starting with the representatives for Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui and Andy Pettitte - once the meetings with ownership are complete. Damon and Matsui have expressed their desire to return to the Bronx, but Pettitte is still contemplating whether he will pitch at all in 2010 or retire. If Pettitte returns, he would move back into the No. 3 slot in the rotation behind CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett, making it less urgent for Cashman to acquire a big-name starting pitcher.
Monday night, Joe Girardi didn't sound like a man convinced that the options at the bottom of the rotation - most notably Hughes and Chamberlain - can be counted on to fill those slots next season, so even if Pettitte comes back, the Yanks likely will still try to add another arm to the rotation.

 








#60375 From: Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:26 pm
Subject: Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch
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Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch

Tuesday, November 24th 2009, 9:50 PM

The Boston Red Sox want to make a deal for Roy Halladay in next couple of weeks, keeping the Blue Jays' ace away from the New York Yankees.
Gash/Pool
The Boston Red Sox want to make a deal for Roy Halladay in next couple of weeks, keeping the Blue Jays' ace away from the New York Yankees.


Thanksgiving isn't until Thursday, but the Halladay season is officially underway.

The Red Sox are "putting on a full-court press" to acquire Roy Halladay, according to a source, and are hoping to add the former Cy Young winner to the top of their rotation to go with Josh Beckett and Jon Lester.

"They would love to get it wrapped up before the winter meetings (beginning Dec. 7)," the source said of the Red Sox, who made a big push to deal for Halladay last summer.

If the Red Sox are serious about dealing for Halladay in the next two weeks, the Yankees will likely have their chance to get involved in the sweepstakes for the Blue Jays ace, although it will take a package of top prospects - as well as a sizeable contract extension for Halladay, who has a full no-trade clause - to get a deal done.

According to sources, the Yankees will get together in Tampa next week for another round of organizational meetings, during which Brian Cashman will be given his budget for the 2010 season.

Cashman indicated on Monday night that he wouldn't be in position to begin presenting offers to any free agents until the payroll situation is resolved, but he will surely continue to monitor the Halladay situation, which could be moving faster than many expected.

Although Cashman hasn't held any serious talks with agents yet, the general manager confirmed yesterday that he has spoken with many teams around the league - including the Blue Jays - about potential trades.

Without a firm budget to work with, Cashman can make smaller deals, such as the one he made for Nick Swisher last November, but until he knows how much money he has to spend, trading for Halladay or a player of that magnitude is not going to happen.

To land Halladay, Boston would likely have to give up Clay Buchholz, the organization's top young pitcher, as well as Casey Kelly, the pitcher/shortstop who signed with the Red Sox in 2008 after being recruited by Tennessee to play quarterback. Red Sox GM Theo Epstein is said to be smitten with Kelly, which could be a sticking point in talks with Toronto if Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos insists on the 20-year-old being included in a deal.

The Yankees would love to acquire Halladay, although Cashman has been reluctant to deal away top prospects such as Austin Jackson and Jesus Montero for a player he would then have to sign for more than $100 million, such as Halladay. Toronto would also likely require either Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain in a deal.

Other teams figure to be involved in the Halladay mix, including the Angels, who reportedly have stepped up their efforts this week as they prepare for the possibility that John Lackey will sign elsewhere.

Cashman will begin speaking to agents - starting with the representatives for Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui and Andy Pettitte - once the meetings with ownership are complete. Damon and Matsui have expressed their desire to return to the Bronx, but Pettitte is still contemplating whether he will pitch at all in 2010 or retire. If Pettitte returns, he would move back into the No. 3 slot in the rotation behind CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett, making it less urgent for Cashman to acquire a big-name starting pitcher.

Monday night, Joe Girardi didn't sound like a man convinced that the options at the bottom of the rotation - most notably Hughes and Chamberlain - can be counted on to fill those slots next season, so even if Pettitte comes back, the Yanks likely will still try to add another arm to the rotation.


 







#60374 From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:10 am
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
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I agree Jeter should have won the MVP that year.

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, geek020651 <geek020651@...> wrote:

From: geek020651 <geek020651@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:55 PM

 
While I think that Mauer deserved it this year, I'll never understand Jeter losing out to Morneau in '06, but then Dustin P. wins it in '08!
Derek had better numbers 3 years ago than Pedroia did last year....the thing about the MVP, Cy Young Award, etc. is that they're basically all popularity contests. On the other hand, winning #27 is something earned outright on the field through winning....and nobody, thankfully, gets to vote on that!

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote:
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> Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?
> Yes. Mauer had that kind of season as I noted before- first time since George Brett in 1980
> that anyone did what he did.
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> Matsui not getting rookie of the year wasn't the worse part- the worse part was that he lost to Angel Berroa of all people.
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> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ ...> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
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> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:41 PM
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> times has a player on a last place team won the award because they had amazing overall stats. Then, the next year they change their minds because players like Pedroia have "spunk".  If it was more consistent, it would probably be easier to swallow. Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?
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> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> wrote:
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> I agree with some of your rant when it applies to the choices writers sometimes make for the Hall, etc. However, in this case, the only thing surprising is that Miguel Cabrera got a first place vote. Six Yankees received votes and that is a testament to the kind of team they had. As a Yankee fan I liked CC and/or Mo for the Cy and Tex and/or Jeter for the MVP. But Greinke deserved the Cy and Mauer deserved the MVP. After missing April with a back injury, Mauer went on to lead the AL in batting average (.365), on-base percentage (.444) and slugging percentage (.587), the first AL player to top all three categories in the same season since George Brett in 1980.
>
> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for
> Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.
>  
> Randy
>
>
>  
>
> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM
>
>
>  
>
> I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it.
>
> --- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@ .> wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him.
> >  
> > --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@ ..> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: SLC <theslick1@ ..>
> > Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> > To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> > Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him.
> >
> > One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?
> >
>



#60373 From: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:55 am
Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Title:   Bucky Dent Birthday (1951)
 
Date:   Wednesday November 25, 2009
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Notes:   Bucky Dent (born November 25, 1951), born Russell Earl O'Dey, is an American former Major League Baseball player and manager. He earned two World Series rings as the starting shortstop for the New York Yankees in 1977 and 1978, and was voted the World Series MVP in 1978. Dent is most famous for his home run in a tie-breaker game against the Boston Red Sox at the end of the 1978 season. The Red Sox had led the American League East Division by as much 14½ games (July 19th) that season.
Dent is widely remembered for hitting a three-run homer that gave the Yankees a 3-2 lead in the 1978 AL East division playoff game against the Boston Red Sox. It was notable because he was not known as a power hitter, having hit just 40 home runs in 12 years in the major leagues, and occupying the ninth spot in the batting order. The Yankees went on to win the game 5-4, securing the division title in the process.

After the devastating loss, Red Sox fans began referring to him as Bucky "Fucking" Dent, and they continue to call him that today. When he attended a recent game at Fenway Park he was introduced to the crowd as Bucky "Bleeping" Dent. He acknowledged this introduction with a smile and a wave to the crowd.

Dent batted .417 in the 1978 World Series, earning Series Most Valuable Player honors as the Yankees defeated the Los Angeles Dodgers, four games to two.
A three-time All-Star, Dent remained the Yankees' shortstop until 1982, when he was traded to the Texas Rangers for outfielder Lee Mazzilli. On the Rangers, his uniform number was 7. Dent returned to the Yankees briefly in 1984 (but never played a game) before finishing his career that season with the Kansas City Royals, wearing uniform number 21. He retired having spent his full 12-year playing career in the American League, with a .247 batting average and 423 RBI.
 
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Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:51 am
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Title:   Joe DiMaggio Birthday (1914)
 
Date:   Wednesday November 25, 2009
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Notes:   A member of the Baseball Hall of Fame, DiMaggio was a 3-time MVP winner and 13-time All-Star (the only player to be selected for the All-Star Game in every season he played). At the time of his retirement, he had the fifth-most career home runs (361) and sixth-highest slugging percentage (.579) in history. He is perhaps best known for his 56-game hitting streak (May 15–July 16, 1941), a record that still stands.[1] A 1969 poll conducted to coincide with the centennial of professional baseball voted him the sport's greatest living player.
Joe DiMaggio was born in Martinez, California, the eighth of nine children born to immigrants of Italy, Giuseppe and Rosalia (Mercurio) DiMaggio. He was named after his father; "Paolo" was in honor of Giuseppe's favorite saint, Saint Paul. The family moved to San Francisco, California when Joe was one year old.

DiMaggio was playing semi-pro ball when Vince DiMaggio, playing for the San Francisco Seals, talked his manager into letting DiMaggio fill in at shortstop; he made his professional debut on October 1, 1932. From May 27 – July 25, 1933, he got at least one hit in a PCL-record 61 consecutive games[3]: "Baseball didn't really get into my blood until I knocked off that hitting streak. Getting a daily hit became more important to me than eating, drinking or sleeping."

In 1934, his career almost ended. Going to his sister's house for dinner, he tore the ligaments in his left knee while stepping out of a jitney. The Seals, hoping to sell DiMaggio's contract for $100,000 now couldn't give him away; the Chicago Cubs turned down a no-risk tryout. Scout Bill Essick pestered the New York Yankees to give the 19 year-old another look. After DiMaggio passed a test on his knee, he was bought on November 21 for $25,000 and 5 players, with the Seals keeping him for the 1935 season. He batted .398 with 154 RBIs and 34 HRs, led the Seals to the 1935 PCL title, and was named the League's Most Valuable Player.

 
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#60371 From: "geek020651" <geek020651@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
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While I think that Mauer deserved it this year, I'll never understand Jeter
losing out to Morneau in '06, but then Dustin P. wins it in '08!
Derek had better numbers 3 years ago than Pedroia did last year....the thing
about the MVP, Cy Young Award, etc. is that they're basically all popularity
contests. On the other hand, winning #27 is something earned outright on the
field through winning....and nobody, thankfully, gets to vote on that!


--- In thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
wrote:
>
> Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the
Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?
> Yes. Mauer had that kind of season as I noted before- first time since George
Brett in 1980
> that anyone did what he did.
>  
> Matsui not getting rookie of the year wasn't the worse part- the worse
part was that he lost to Angel Berroa of all people.
>
> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Randy West <rwest_achla@...>
> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:41 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I understand the year Mauer had, but it still gets me. I totally agree with
the Greinke decision. It just seems that whenever there are exceptions to be
made, it happens against the Yankees. In 2003, suddenly it didn't seem right
that Matsui should win ROY because he had played previously in Japan. They
couldn't decide that after 1995 when Nomo won it. They couldn't decide that in
2000 when Kaz Sasaki won the award. I guess in 2001 it was ok for Ichiro to win
it also. But....in 2003, when a Yankee is in the mix, suddenly it is not ok.
It's not always against the Yankees, it just seems like it sometimes. Again, it
was a rant. Joe Mauer is an unbelievable player and his value as a catcher is
high. The Twins did however have 4 total player have 90+ RBI. He did not carry
this team by himself. Also, they only had 87 wins. The term MVP is defined in
many different ways. There has just been too many instances of the definition
changing between voters. How many
>  times has a player on a last place team won the award because they had
amazing overall stats. Then, the next year they change their minds because
players like Pedroia have "spunk".  If it was more consistent, it would
probably be easier to swallow. Hypothetically, If you switched the two players
teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the
same?
>
>
>  
>
> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:53 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I agree with some of your rant when it applies to the choices writers
sometimes make for the Hall, etc. However, in this case, the only thing
surprising is that Miguel Cabrera got a first place vote. Six Yankees received
votes and that is a testament to the kind of team they had. As a Yankee fan I
liked CC and/or Mo for the Cy and Tex and/or Jeter for the MVP. But Greinke
deserved the Cy and Mauer deserved the MVP. After missing April with a back
injury, Mauer went on to lead the AL in batting average (.365), on-base
percentage (.444) and slugging percentage (.587), the first AL player to top all
three categories in the same season since George Brett in 1980.
>
> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold
Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get
serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to
Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it
last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the
year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the
fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over
who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major
awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting
skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in
the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called
sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn
over whether I'd have voted for
>  Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place
vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes
claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out.
Happy Thanksgiving all.
>  
> Randy
>
>
>  
>
> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM
>
>
>  
>
> I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a
non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in
a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it.
>
> --- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@ .>
wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba
will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has
come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL.
Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive
machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league
season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes
or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1
major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price
in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract
will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a
free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him.
> >  
> > --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@ ..> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: SLC <theslick1@ ..>
> > Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> > To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> > Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he
might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins
traded him.
> >
> > One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba,
Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?
> >
>

#60370 From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:50 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
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I forgot to mention that I do think Jeter deserved it over Morneau a few years ago.

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@...> wrote:

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:41 PM

 
I understand the year Mauer had, but it still gets me. I totally agree with the Greinke decision. It just seems that whenever there are exceptions to be made, it happens against the Yankees. In 2003, suddenly it didn't seem right that Matsui should win ROY because he had played previously in Japan. They couldn't decide that after 1995 when Nomo won it. They couldn't decide that in 2000 when Kaz Sasaki won the award. I guess in 2001 it was ok for Ichiro to win it also. But....in 2003, when a Yankee is in the mix, suddenly it is not ok. It's not always against the Yankees, it just seems like it sometimes. Again, it was a rant. Joe Mauer is an unbelievable player and his value as a catcher is high. The Twins did however have 4 total player have 90+ RBI. He did not carry this team by himself. Also, they only had 87 wins. The term MVP is defined in many different ways. There has just been too many instances of the definition changing between voters. How many times has a player on a last place team won the award because they had amazing overall stats. Then, the next year they change their minds because players like Pedroia have "spunk".  If it was more consistent, it would probably be easier to swallow. Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:53 PM

 
I agree with some of your rant when it applies to the choices writers sometimes make for the Hall, etc. However, in this case, the only thing surprising is that Miguel Cabrera got a first place vote. Six Yankees received votes and that is a testament to the kind of team they had. As a Yankee fan I liked CC and/or Mo for the Cy and Tex and/or Jeter for the MVP. But Greinke deserved the Cy and Mauer deserved the MVP. After missing April with a back injury, Mauer went on to lead the AL in batting average (.365), on-base percentage (.444) and slugging percentage (.587), the first AL player to top all three categories in the same season since George Brett in 1980.

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM

 
Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.
 
Randy

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM

 
I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it.

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him.
>  
> --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@. ..>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him.
>
> One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?
>






#60369 From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:48 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
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You have the right package it would take if the Yankees chose to pursue Halliday. However, I believe they won't because of that reason- the package necessary to get him plus the contract needed to sign him. Cashman passed on a younger Santana for the same reasons and he'll pass on an older Halliday in the same way.

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@...> wrote:

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 3:10 PM

 
Fair enough. I resepct that. Has anyone checked Mauer's pine tar? What would you consider to be a fair trade value for Halladay. I think I would be willing to part with Hughes, AJax and a third prospect, possibly even McAllister. Then i would once and for all stick Joba in the pen even though I've been against it for years. That would be a nasty rotation. It's a big price, but Halladay is that kind of talent.

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:46 PM

 
Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?
Yes. Mauer had that kind of season as I noted before- first time since George Brett in 1980
that anyone did what he did.
 
Matsui not getting rookie of the year wasn't the worse part- the worse part was that he lost to Angel Berroa of all people.

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:41 PM

 
I understand the year Mauer had, but it still gets me. I totally agree with the Greinke decision. It just seems that whenever there are exceptions to be made, it happens against the Yankees. In 2003, suddenly it didn't seem right that Matsui should win ROY because he had played previously in Japan. They couldn't decide that after 1995 when Nomo won it. They couldn't decide that in 2000 when Kaz Sasaki won the award. I guess in 2001 it was ok for Ichiro to win it also. But....in 2003, when a Yankee is in the mix, suddenly it is not ok. It's not always against the Yankees, it just seems like it sometimes. Again, it was a rant. Joe Mauer is an unbelievable player and his value as a catcher is high. The Twins did however have 4 total player have 90+ RBI. He did not carry this team by himself. Also, they only had 87 wins. The term MVP is defined in many different ways. There has just been too many instances of the definition changing between voters. How many times has a player on a last place team won the award because they had amazing overall stats. Then, the next year they change their minds because players like Pedroia have "spunk".  If it was more consistent, it would probably be easier to swallow. Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:53 PM

 
I agree with some of your rant when it applies to the choices writers sometimes make for the Hall, etc. However, in this case, the only thing surprising is that Miguel Cabrera got a first place vote. Six Yankees received votes and that is a testament to the kind of team they had. As a Yankee fan I liked CC and/or Mo for the Cy and Tex and/or Jeter for the MVP. But Greinke deserved the Cy and Mauer deserved the MVP. After missing April with a back injury, Mauer went on to lead the AL in batting average (.365), on-base percentage (.444) and slugging percentage (.587), the first AL player to top all three categories in the same season since George Brett in 1980.

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM

 
Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.
 
Randy

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM

 
I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it.

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him.
>  
> --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@. ..>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him.
>
> One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?
>








#60368 From: Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:12 pm
Subject: Re:My Rant
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I just can't feel bad about Mauer's winning the award b/c I truly feel he deserved it plus we did win the most important award. As for the voting, it is what it is and we will probably forever see things play themselves out like this especially when it comes to voting against a Yankee. This is one time I can say "let it go" because you are worrying about something you can't control! 

 


 








#60367 From: Randy West <rwest_achla@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:10 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
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Fair enough. I resepct that. Has anyone checked Mauer's pine tar? What would you consider to be a fair trade value for Halladay. I think I would be willing to part with Hughes, AJax and a third prospect, possibly even McAllister. Then i would once and for all stick Joba in the pen even though I've been against it for years. That would be a nasty rotation. It's a big price, but Halladay is that kind of talent.

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@...> wrote:

From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:46 PM

 
Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?
Yes. Mauer had that kind of season as I noted before- first time since George Brett in 1980
that anyone did what he did.
 
Matsui not getting rookie of the year wasn't the worse part- the worse part was that he lost to Angel Berroa of all people.

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:41 PM

 
I understand the year Mauer had, but it still gets me. I totally agree with the Greinke decision. It just seems that whenever there are exceptions to be made, it happens against the Yankees. In 2003, suddenly it didn't seem right that Matsui should win ROY because he had played previously in Japan. They couldn't decide that after 1995 when Nomo won it. They couldn't decide that in 2000 when Kaz Sasaki won the award. I guess in 2001 it was ok for Ichiro to win it also. But....in 2003, when a Yankee is in the mix, suddenly it is not ok. It's not always against the Yankees, it just seems like it sometimes. Again, it was a rant. Joe Mauer is an unbelievable player and his value as a catcher is high. The Twins did however have 4 total player have 90+ RBI. He did not carry this team by himself. Also, they only had 87 wins. The term MVP is defined in many different ways. There has just been too many instances of the definition changing between voters. How many times has a player on a last place team won the award because they had amazing overall stats. Then, the next year they change their minds because players like Pedroia have "spunk".  If it was more consistent, it would probably be easier to swallow. Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:53 PM

 
I agree with some of your rant when it applies to the choices writers sometimes make for the Hall, etc. However, in this case, the only thing surprising is that Miguel Cabrera got a first place vote. Six Yankees received votes and that is a testament to the kind of team they had. As a Yankee fan I liked CC and/or Mo for the Cy and Tex and/or Jeter for the MVP. But Greinke deserved the Cy and Mauer deserved the MVP. After missing April with a back injury, Mauer went on to lead the AL in batting average (.365), on-base percentage (.444) and slugging percentage (.587), the first AL player to top all three categories in the same season since George Brett in 1980.

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM

 
Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.
 
Randy

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM

 
I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it.

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him.
>  
> --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@. ..>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him.
>
> One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?
>







#60366 From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
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Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?
Yes. Mauer had that kind of season as I noted before- first time since George Brett in 1980
that anyone did what he did.
 
Matsui not getting rookie of the year wasn't the worse part- the worse part was that he lost to Angel Berroa of all people.

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@...> wrote:

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:41 PM

 
I understand the year Mauer had, but it still gets me. I totally agree with the Greinke decision. It just seems that whenever there are exceptions to be made, it happens against the Yankees. In 2003, suddenly it didn't seem right that Matsui should win ROY because he had played previously in Japan. They couldn't decide that after 1995 when Nomo won it. They couldn't decide that in 2000 when Kaz Sasaki won the award. I guess in 2001 it was ok for Ichiro to win it also. But....in 2003, when a Yankee is in the mix, suddenly it is not ok. It's not always against the Yankees, it just seems like it sometimes. Again, it was a rant. Joe Mauer is an unbelievable player and his value as a catcher is high. The Twins did however have 4 total player have 90+ RBI. He did not carry this team by himself. Also, they only had 87 wins. The term MVP is defined in many different ways. There has just been too many instances of the definition changing between voters. How many times has a player on a last place team won the award because they had amazing overall stats. Then, the next year they change their minds because players like Pedroia have "spunk".  If it was more consistent, it would probably be easier to swallow. Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:53 PM

 
I agree with some of your rant when it applies to the choices writers sometimes make for the Hall, etc. However, in this case, the only thing surprising is that Miguel Cabrera got a first place vote. Six Yankees received votes and that is a testament to the kind of team they had. As a Yankee fan I liked CC and/or Mo for the Cy and Tex and/or Jeter for the MVP. But Greinke deserved the Cy and Mauer deserved the MVP. After missing April with a back injury, Mauer went on to lead the AL in batting average (.365), on-base percentage (.444) and slugging percentage (.587), the first AL player to top all three categories in the same season since George Brett in 1980.

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM

 
Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.
 
Randy

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM

 
I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it.

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him.
>  
> --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@. ..>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him.
>
> One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?
>






#60365 From: Randy West <rwest_achla@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
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I understand the year Mauer had, but it still gets me. I totally agree with the Greinke decision. It just seems that whenever there are exceptions to be made, it happens against the Yankees. In 2003, suddenly it didn't seem right that Matsui should win ROY because he had played previously in Japan. They couldn't decide that after 1995 when Nomo won it. They couldn't decide that in 2000 when Kaz Sasaki won the award. I guess in 2001 it was ok for Ichiro to win it also. But....in 2003, when a Yankee is in the mix, suddenly it is not ok. It's not always against the Yankees, it just seems like it sometimes. Again, it was a rant. Joe Mauer is an unbelievable player and his value as a catcher is high. The Twins did however have 4 total player have 90+ RBI. He did not carry this team by himself. Also, they only had 87 wins. The term MVP is defined in many different ways. There has just been too many instances of the definition changing between voters. How many times has a player on a last place team won the award because they had amazing overall stats. Then, the next year they change their minds because players like Pedroia have "spunk".  If it was more consistent, it would probably be easier to swallow. Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@...> wrote:

From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:53 PM

 
I agree with some of your rant when it applies to the choices writers sometimes make for the Hall, etc. However, in this case, the only thing surprising is that Miguel Cabrera got a first place vote. Six Yankees received votes and that is a testament to the kind of team they had. As a Yankee fan I liked CC and/or Mo for the Cy and Tex and/or Jeter for the MVP. But Greinke deserved the Cy and Mauer deserved the MVP. After missing April with a back injury, Mauer went on to lead the AL in batting average (.365), on-base percentage (.444) and slugging percentage (.587), the first AL player to top all three categories in the same season since George Brett in 1980.

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM

 
Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.
 
Randy

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM

 
I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it.

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him.
>  
> --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@. ..>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him.
>
> One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?
>





#60364 From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
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I agree with some of your rant when it applies to the choices writers sometimes make for the Hall, etc. However, in this case, the only thing surprising is that Miguel Cabrera got a first place vote. Six Yankees received votes and that is a testament to the kind of team they had. As a Yankee fan I liked CC and/or Mo for the Cy and Tex and/or Jeter for the MVP. But Greinke deserved the Cy and Mauer deserved the MVP. After missing April with a back injury, Mauer went on to lead the AL in batting average (.365), on-base percentage (.444) and slugging percentage (.587), the first AL player to top all three categories in the same season since George Brett in 1980.

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@...> wrote:

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM

 
Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.
 
Randy

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM

 
I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it.

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him.
>  
> --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@. ..>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him.
>
> One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?
>




#60363 From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:46 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Aroldis Chapman Changes Agents
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Well, you may not get your wish. The Yanks and Boston are the 2 leading teams to get him. This looks like a Yankee type of move to me. High cost (money)-low risk (no players/draft choices involved). If has any success down the road, then fine; if not, then oh well. Not exactly Igawa in terms of money but similar except that he is younger and throws harder.

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@...> wrote:

From: SLC <theslick1@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Aroldis Chapman Changes Agents
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:01 PM

 
He dropped API and signed on with the Hendricks Brothers.

I think this guy is a risk and I'm not sure we want to pay big dollars to assume it.



#60362 From: Randy West <rwest_achla@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:34 pm
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
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Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.
 
Randy

 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@...> wrote:

From: SLC <theslick1@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM

 
I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it.

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote:
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> I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him.
>  
> --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote:
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> From: SLC <theslick1@. ..>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM
>
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>  
>
>
>
> Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him.
>
> One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?
>



#60361 From: "SLC" <theslick1@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:01 pm
Subject: Aroldis Chapman Changes Agents
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He dropped API and signed on with the Hendricks Brothers.

I think this guy is a risk and I'm not sure we want to pay big dollars to assume
it.

#60360 From: "SLC" <theslick1@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:55 pm
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I agree with this.  I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a
non-starter.  I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw
in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it.

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
wrote:
>
> I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba
will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has
come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL.
Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive
machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league
season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes
or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1
major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price
in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract
will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a
free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him.
>  
> --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@...> wrote:
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>
> From: SLC <theslick1@...>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he
might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins
traded him.
>
> One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero,
and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?
>

#60359 From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:01 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Re:Josh Johnson?
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I agree although his winter performance this year is a little suspicious.

--- On Mon, 11/23/09, Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...> wrote:

From: Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Re:Josh Johnson?
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 3:50 PM


 In my opinion,  any trade involving Montero is way too much! I look at him as untouchable and the Yankees should as well!!

 


 









#60358 From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:00 pm
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
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I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him.
 
--- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@...> wrote:

From: SLC <theslick1@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM

 
Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him.

One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?



#60357 From: Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:50 pm
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 In my opinion,  any trade involving Montero is way too much! I look at him as untouchable and the Yankees should as well!!

 


 








#60356 From: Kristin <prettyrose33@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:55 pm
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  A big question to is, how well will Johnson pitch in the AL?  He is good in the NL with a smaller market team as he has no pressure on him to win.  Just something to think about.
 
Kristin

 
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Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?

 

Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him.

One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?



#60355 From: "SLC" <theslick1@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:41 pm
Subject: Josh Johnson?
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Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he
might be traded.  Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins
traded him.

One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero,
and Zach McAllister in a trade.  Is this too much?

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