From: Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Re:Andruw Jones agrees to deal with White Sox
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 7:22 PM

 

Do you guys remember how good this guy use to be? His coming out party was in the 96 WS.
He was an All Star and I believe he won many Gold Gloves w/Atlanta and then he signed with LA
and his career went to shambles. He is only 32 and he needs to do something quick or he will be
looked at as a failure and I believe he will regret it forever.

 

 

From: ramondostallings <ramondostallings@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Andruw Jones agrees to deal with White Sox
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 6:09 PM

 

http://sports. yahoo.com/ mlb/news; _ylt=Ak0JOHfJx7o Cmb4Ko1sOrfERvLY F?slug=ap- whitesox- jones&prov= ap&type=lgns

From: SLC <theslick1@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 5:08 PM

 

In addition to Halladay, Bay is a free agent that they'll have to spend $60 mil or so to retain. The cost of Halladay to Boston is likely a package including Clay Buchholz. I would hate to see that happen because Boston deserves to have a guy named Buchholz on its team.

If you were Toronto, who would you rather have - Buchholz, Joba, or Hughes?

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote:
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> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Cc: TheYankeesClub@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 12:26 PM
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> Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch
> BY Mark Feinsand and Bill Madden
> DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITERS
> Tuesday, November 24th 2009, 9:50 PM
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> Gash/PoolThe Boston Red Sox want to make a deal for Roy Halladay in next couple of weeks, keeping the Blue Jays' ace away from the New York Yankees.
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> Thanksgiving isn't until Thursday, but the Halladay season is officially underway.
> The Red Sox are "putting on a full-court press" to acquire Roy Halladay, according to a source, and are hoping to add the former Cy Young winner to the top of their rotation to go with Josh Beckett and Jon Lester.
> "They would love to get it wrapped up before the winter meetings (beginning Dec. 7)," the source said of the Red Sox, who made a big push to deal for Halladay last summer.
> If the Red Sox are serious about dealing for Halladay in the next two weeks, the Yankees will likely have their chance to get involved in the sweepstakes for the Blue Jays ace, although it will take a package of top prospects - as well as a sizeable contract extension for Halladay, who has a full no-trade clause - to get a deal done.
> According to sources, the Yankees will get together in Tampa next week for another round of organizational meetings, during which Brian Cashman will be given his budget for the 2010 season.
> Cashman indicated on Monday night that he wouldn't be in position to begin presenting offers to any free agents until the payroll situation is resolved, but he will surely continue to monitor the Halladay situation, which could be moving faster than many expected.
> Although Cashman hasn't held any serious talks with agents yet, the general manager confirmed yesterday that he has spoken with many teams around the league - including the Blue Jays - about potential trades.
> Without a firm budget to work with, Cashman can make smaller deals, such as the one he made for Nick Swisher last November, but until he knows how much money he has to spend, trading for Halladay or a player of that magnitude is not going to happen.
> To land Halladay, Boston would likely have to give up Clay Buchholz, the organization' s top young pitcher, as well as Casey Kelly, the pitcher/shortstop who signed with the Red Sox in 2008 after being recruited by Tennessee to play quarterback. Red Sox GM Theo Epstein is said to be smitten with Kelly, which could be a sticking point in talks with Toronto if Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos insists on the 20-year-old being included in a deal.
> The Yankees would love to acquire Halladay, although Cashman has been reluctant to deal away top prospects such as Austin Jackson and Jesus Montero for a player he would then have to sign for more than $100 million, such as Halladay. Toronto would also likely require either Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain in a deal.
> Other teams figure to be involved in the Halladay mix, including the Angels, who reportedly have stepped up their efforts this week as they prepare for the possibility that John Lackey will sign elsewhere.
> Cashman will begin speaking to agents - starting with the representatives for Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui and Andy Pettitte - once the meetings with ownership are complete. Damon and Matsui have expressed their desire to return to the Bronx, but Pettitte is still contemplating whether he will pitch at all in 2010 or retire. If Pettitte returns, he would move back into the No. 3 slot in the rotation behind CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett, making it less urgent for Cashman to acquire a big-name starting pitcher.
> Monday night, Joe Girardi didn't sound like a man convinced that the options at the bottom of the rotation - most notably Hughes and Chamberlain - can be counted on to fill those slots next season, so even if Pettitte comes back, the Yanks likely will still try to add another arm to the rotation.
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From: Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Cc: TheYankeesClub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 12:26 PM

 

Sources: Boston Red Sox making push to trade for Roy Halladay, try to beat New York Yankees to punch BY Mark Feinsand and Bill Madden DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITERS Tuesday, November 24th 2009, 9:50 PM Gash/Pool The Boston Red Sox want to make a deal for Roy Halladay in next couple of weeks, keeping the Blue Jays' ace away from the New York Yankees. Thanksgiving isn't until Thursday, but the Halladay season is officially underway. The Red Sox are "putting on a full-court press" to acquire Roy Halladay, according to a source, and are hoping to add the former Cy Young winner to the top of their rotation to go with Josh Beckett and Jon Lester. "They would love to get it wrapped up before the winter meetings (beginning Dec. 7)," the source said of the Red Sox, who made a big push to deal for Halladay last summer. If the Red Sox are serious about dealing for Halladay in the next two weeks, the Yankees will likely have their chance to get involved in the sweepstakes for the Blue Jays ace, although it will take a package of top prospects - as well as a sizeable contract extension for Halladay, who has a full no-trade clause - to get a deal done. According to sources, the Yankees will get together in Tampa next week for another round of organizational meetings, during which Brian Cashman will be given his budget for the 2010 season. Cashman indicated on Monday night that he wouldn't be in position to begin presenting offers to any free agents until the payroll situation is resolved, but he will surely continue to monitor the Halladay situation, which could be moving faster than many expected. Although Cashman hasn't held any serious talks with agents yet, the general manager confirmed yesterday that he has spoken with many teams around the league - including the Blue Jays - about potential trades. Without a firm budget to work with, Cashman can make smaller deals, such as the one he made for Nick Swisher last November, but until he knows how much money he has to spend, trading for Halladay or a player of that magnitude is not going to happen. To land Halladay, Boston would likely have to give up Clay Buchholz, the organization' s top young pitcher, as well as Casey Kelly, the pitcher/shortstop who signed with the Red Sox in 2008 after being recruited by Tennessee to play quarterback. Red Sox GM Theo Epstein is said to be smitten with Kelly, which could be a sticking point in talks with Toronto if Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos insists on the 20-year-old being included in a deal. The Yankees would love to acquire Halladay, although Cashman has been reluctant to deal away top prospects such as Austin Jackson and Jesus Montero for a player he would then have to sign for more than $100 million, such as Halladay. Toronto would also likely require either Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain in a deal. Other teams figure to be involved in the Halladay mix, including the Angels, who reportedly have stepped up their efforts this week as they prepare for the possibility that John Lackey will sign elsewhere. Cashman will begin speaking to agents - starting with the representatives for Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui and Andy Pettitte - once the meetings with ownership are complete. Damon and Matsui have expressed their desire to return to the Bronx, but Pettitte is still contemplating whether he will pitch at all in 2010 or retire. If Pettitte returns, he would move back into the No. 3 slot in the rotation behind CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett, making it less urgent for Cashman to acquire a big-name starting pitcher. Monday night, Joe Girardi didn't sound like a man convinced that the options at the bottom of the rotation - most notably Hughes and Chamberlain - can be counted on to fill those slots next season, so even if Pettitte comes back, the Yanks likely will still try to add another arm to the rotation.

From: geek020651 <geek020651@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:55 PM

 

While I think that Mauer deserved it this year, I'll never understand Jeter losing out to Morneau in '06, but then Dustin P. wins it in '08!
Derek had better numbers 3 years ago than Pedroia did last year....the thing about the MVP, Cy Young Award, etc. is that they're basically all popularity contests. On the other hand, winning #27 is something earned outright on the field through winning....and nobody, thankfully, gets to vote on that!

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> Yes. Mauer had that kind of season as I noted before- first time since George Brett in 1980
> that anyone did what he did.
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> Matsui not getting rookie of the year wasn't the worse part- the worse part was that he lost to Angel Berroa of all people.
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> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ ...> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
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> times has a player on a last place team won the award because they had amazing overall stats. Then, the next year they change their minds because players like Pedroia have "spunk".  If it was more consistent, it would probably be easier to swallow. Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?
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> Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.
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> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM
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From: Randy West <rwest_achla@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:41 PM

 

I understand the year Mauer had, but it still gets me. I totally agree with the Greinke decision. It just seems that whenever there are exceptions to be made, it happens against the Yankees. In 2003, suddenly it didn't seem right that Matsui should win ROY because he had played previously in Japan. They couldn't decide that after 1995 when Nomo won it. They couldn't decide that in 2000 when Kaz Sasaki won the award. I guess in 2001 it was ok for Ichiro to win it also. But....in 2003, when a Yankee is in the mix, suddenly it is not ok. It's not always against the Yankees, it just seems like it sometimes. Again, it was a rant. Joe Mauer is an unbelievable player and his value as a catcher is high. The Twins did however have 4 total player have 90+ RBI. He did not carry this team by himself. Also, they only had 87 wins. The term MVP is defined in many different ways. There has just been too many instances of the definition changing between voters. How many times has a player on a last place team won the award because they had amazing overall stats. Then, the next year they change their minds because players like Pedroia have "spunk".  If it was more consistent, it would probably be easier to swallow. Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?   --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:53 PM   I agree with some of your rant when it applies to the choices writers sometimes make for the Hall, etc. However, in this case, the only thing surprising is that Miguel Cabrera got a first place vote. Six Yankees received votes and that is a testament to the kind of team they had. As a Yankee fan I liked CC and/or Mo for the Cy and Tex and/or Jeter for the MVP. But Greinke deserved the Cy and Mauer deserved the MVP. After missing April with a back injury, Mauer went on to lead the AL in batting average (.365), on-base percentage (.444) and slugging percentage (.587), the first AL player to top all three categories in the same season since George Brett in 1980. --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM   Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.   Randy   --- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote: From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson? To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM   I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it. --- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote: > > I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him. >   > --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote: > > > From: SLC <theslick1@. ..> > Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson? > To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com > Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM > > >   > > > > Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him. > > One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much? >

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 3:10 PM

 

Fair enough. I resepct that. Has anyone checked Mauer's pine tar? What would you consider to be a fair trade value for Halladay. I think I would be willing to part with Hughes, AJax and a third prospect, possibly even McAllister. Then i would once and for all stick Joba in the pen even though I've been against it for years. That would be a nasty rotation. It's a big price, but Halladay is that kind of talent.   --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:46 PM   Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same? Yes. Mauer had that kind of season as I noted before- first time since George Brett in 1980 that anyone did what he did.   Matsui not getting rookie of the year wasn't the worse part- the worse part was that he lost to Angel Berroa of all people. --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:41 PM   I understand the year Mauer had, but it still gets me. I totally agree with the Greinke decision. It just seems that whenever there are exceptions to be made, it happens against the Yankees. In 2003, suddenly it didn't seem right that Matsui should win ROY because he had played previously in Japan. They couldn't decide that after 1995 when Nomo won it. They couldn't decide that in 2000 when Kaz Sasaki won the award. I guess in 2001 it was ok for Ichiro to win it also. But....in 2003, when a Yankee is in the mix, suddenly it is not ok. It's not always against the Yankees, it just seems like it sometimes. Again, it was a rant. Joe Mauer is an unbelievable player and his value as a catcher is high. The Twins did however have 4 total player have 90+ RBI. He did not carry this team by himself. Also, they only had 87 wins. The term MVP is defined in many different ways. There has just been too many instances of the definition changing between voters. How many times has a player on a last place team won the award because they had amazing overall stats. Then, the next year they change their minds because players like Pedroia have "spunk".  If it was more consistent, it would probably be easier to swallow. Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?   --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:53 PM   I agree with some of your rant when it applies to the choices writers sometimes make for the Hall, etc. However, in this case, the only thing surprising is that Miguel Cabrera got a first place vote. Six Yankees received votes and that is a testament to the kind of team they had. As a Yankee fan I liked CC and/or Mo for the Cy and Tex and/or Jeter for the MVP. But Greinke deserved the Cy and Mauer deserved the MVP. After missing April with a back injury, Mauer went on to lead the AL in batting average (.365), on-base percentage (.444) and slugging percentage (.587), the first AL player to top all three categories in the same season since George Brett in 1980. --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM   Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.   Randy   --- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote: From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson? To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM   I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it. --- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote: > > I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him. >   > --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote: > > > From: SLC <theslick1@. ..> > Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson? > To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com > Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM > > >   > > > > Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him. > > One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much? >

From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:46 PM

 

Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same? Yes. Mauer had that kind of season as I noted before- first time since George Brett in 1980 that anyone did what he did.   Matsui not getting rookie of the year wasn't the worse part- the worse part was that he lost to Angel Berroa of all people. --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:41 PM   I understand the year Mauer had, but it still gets me. I totally agree with the Greinke decision. It just seems that whenever there are exceptions to be made, it happens against the Yankees. In 2003, suddenly it didn't seem right that Matsui should win ROY because he had played previously in Japan. They couldn't decide that after 1995 when Nomo won it. They couldn't decide that in 2000 when Kaz Sasaki won the award. I guess in 2001 it was ok for Ichiro to win it also. But....in 2003, when a Yankee is in the mix, suddenly it is not ok. It's not always against the Yankees, it just seems like it sometimes. Again, it was a rant. Joe Mauer is an unbelievable player and his value as a catcher is high. The Twins did however have 4 total player have 90+ RBI. He did not carry this team by himself. Also, they only had 87 wins. The term MVP is defined in many different ways. There has just been too many instances of the definition changing between voters. How many times has a player on a last place team won the award because they had amazing overall stats. Then, the next year they change their minds because players like Pedroia have "spunk".  If it was more consistent, it would probably be easier to swallow. Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?   --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:53 PM   I agree with some of your rant when it applies to the choices writers sometimes make for the Hall, etc. However, in this case, the only thing surprising is that Miguel Cabrera got a first place vote. Six Yankees received votes and that is a testament to the kind of team they had. As a Yankee fan I liked CC and/or Mo for the Cy and Tex and/or Jeter for the MVP. But Greinke deserved the Cy and Mauer deserved the MVP. After missing April with a back injury, Mauer went on to lead the AL in batting average (.365), on-base percentage (.444) and slugging percentage (.587), the first AL player to top all three categories in the same season since George Brett in 1980. --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM   Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.   Randy   --- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote: From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson? To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM   I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it. --- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote: > > I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him. >   > --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote: > > > From: SLC <theslick1@. ..> > Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson? > To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com > Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM > > >   > > > > Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him. > > One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much? >

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:41 PM

 

I understand the year Mauer had, but it still gets me. I totally agree with the Greinke decision. It just seems that whenever there are exceptions to be made, it happens against the Yankees. In 2003, suddenly it didn't seem right that Matsui should win ROY because he had played previously in Japan. They couldn't decide that after 1995 when Nomo won it. They couldn't decide that in 2000 when Kaz Sasaki won the award. I guess in 2001 it was ok for Ichiro to win it also. But....in 2003, when a Yankee is in the mix, suddenly it is not ok. It's not always against the Yankees, it just seems like it sometimes. Again, it was a rant. Joe Mauer is an unbelievable player and his value as a catcher is high. The Twins did however have 4 total player have 90+ RBI. He did not carry this team by himself. Also, they only had 87 wins. The term MVP is defined in many different ways. There has just been too many instances of the definition changing between voters. How many times has a player on a last place team won the award because they had amazing overall stats. Then, the next year they change their minds because players like Pedroia have "spunk".  If it was more consistent, it would probably be easier to swallow. Hypothetically, If you switched the two players teams and put Mauer on the Yankees, would the voting still have remained the same?   --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:53 PM   I agree with some of your rant when it applies to the choices writers sometimes make for the Hall, etc. However, in this case, the only thing surprising is that Miguel Cabrera got a first place vote. Six Yankees received votes and that is a testament to the kind of team they had. As a Yankee fan I liked CC and/or Mo for the Cy and Tex and/or Jeter for the MVP. But Greinke deserved the Cy and Mauer deserved the MVP. After missing April with a back injury, Mauer went on to lead the AL in batting average (.365), on-base percentage (.444) and slugging percentage (.587), the first AL player to top all three categories in the same season since George Brett in 1980. --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM   Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.   Randy   --- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote: From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson? To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM   I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it. --- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote: > > I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him. >   > --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote: > > > From: SLC <theslick1@. ..> > Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson? > To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com > Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM > > >   > > > > Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him. > > One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much? >

From: Joseph P. <jpasseri@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:53 PM

 

I agree with some of your rant when it applies to the choices writers sometimes make for the Hall, etc. However, in this case, the only thing surprising is that Miguel Cabrera got a first place vote. Six Yankees received votes and that is a testament to the kind of team they had. As a Yankee fan I liked CC and/or Mo for the Cy and Tex and/or Jeter for the MVP. But Greinke deserved the Cy and Mauer deserved the MVP. After missing April with a back injury, Mauer went on to lead the AL in batting average (.365), on-base percentage (.444) and slugging percentage (.587), the first AL player to top all three categories in the same season since George Brett in 1980. --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Randy West <rwest_achla@ yahoo.com> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM   Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.   Randy   --- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote: From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson? To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM   I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it. --- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote: > > I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him. >   > --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote: > > > From: SLC <theslick1@. ..> > Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson? > To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com > Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM > > >   > > > > Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him. > > One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much? >

From: Randy West <rwest_achla@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] My Rant
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:34 PM

 

Mauer is almost the unanimous MVP?? I apologize, but I thought playing Gold Glove defense and leading the league in home runs and RBI was enough to get serious consideration for MVP. Is this a league award, or did they change it to Best Player in a small market? Last I checked, wasn't it Spedroia who won it last year playing in a large market? I don't want to take anything away from the year Mauer had, but this is pure BS. The sport writers like to make fun of the fans for voting in the All-Star game and nitpick our decisions to death over who was snubbed. At least we are voting for an exhibition game, not major awards. (I know it counts) The same holds true for their Hall of Fame voting skills. How are players suddenly worthy on their 15th time. Why has nobody in the history of the game been unanimously voted into the hall. The so-called sport writers get way too many privileges and often abuse them. I was also torn over whether I'd have voted for Jeter or Tex in the MVP race, but for neither of them to get a first place vote is a travesty. The most important thing is #27, but like so many athletes claim, I feel "disrespected" Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it out. Happy Thanksgiving all.   Randy   --- On Tue, 11/24/09, SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> wrote: From: SLC <theslick1@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson? To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM   I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it. --- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote: > > I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him. >   > --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote: > > > From: SLC <theslick1@. ..> > Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson? > To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com > Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM > > >   > > > > Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him. > > One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much? >

From: SLC <theslick1@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Aroldis Chapman Changes Agents
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:01 PM

 

He dropped API and signed on with the Hendricks Brothers.

I think this guy is a risk and I'm not sure we want to pay big dollars to assume it.

From: SLC <theslick1@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:55 PM

 

I agree with this. I think any trade that involves Montero at this point is a non-starter. I would swap Joba for Johnson straight up and I might even throw in a few lesser minor leaguers but that's about it.

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@.. .> wrote:
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> I wouldn't make that trade. Johnson will be 26 before next season, and Joba will be 24 for most of the season. Johnson has had tommy-john surgery and has come back nicely, and pitched over 200 innings this year. But that is the NL. Joba will have the "Rules" lifted this season. Montero is a potential offensive machine although he broke a finger last year and has had a poor winter league season. McCallister is the Yanks best pitching prospect not named Joba, Hughes or Kennedy. That's way too much to give up for a pitcher who's already had 1 major surgery. Johnson had a good season and I like his talent, but the price in exchange for him would have to come down especially since his next contract will be huge. Besides, if the Yanks wait a year- Beckett may be available as a free agent and he's only 30 years old. Plus, that means the Sox would lose him.
>  
> --- On Mon, 11/23/09, SLC <theslick1@. ..> wrote:
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> From: SLC <theslick1@. ..>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM
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> Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him.
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> One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?
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From: Ramondo Stallings <ramondostallings@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Re:Josh Johnson?
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 3:50 PM

In my opinion,  any trade involving Montero is way too much! I look at him as untouchable and the Yankees should as well!!

From: SLC <theslick1@...>
Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Josh Johnson?
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:41 PM

 

Florida has been unable to agree on a contract extension and it's rumored he might be traded. Some think he's better than Josh Beckett was when the Marlins traded him.

One site is speculating that the Yankees would have to give up Joba, Montero, and Zach McAllister in a trade. Is this too much?